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This was wonderful. Raised as a traditional Latina — with siblings having their nuclear norms, while I have chosen a more unconventional way (thinking I can have it both) still truly I do. In the meantime I’m super single lol and don’t have a large community in La. It’s been difficult. Even though I’m at peace , the societal norms I was raised with need to be deconditioned because I don’t want this life that is truly a blessing (to just wake up and be able to try again) go passed me. It’s a lot to express. But this life essay was perfect. Thank you.

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Thank you Nadia, for writing words and ideas that so closely speak to my own heart and value system. I am 29, and certainly in the first wave of friends on the path toward nuclear family - and I have never fully aligned with that life - marriage, motherhood, property ownership, and a bullshit job (if you haven't read David Graeber, which you probably have, you must!) just to pay the (extortionate) bills. I have to mention here that I was raised on a farm, with a beautiful garden, and exhausted, burned out, overworked parents who were not emotionally present or attuned whatsoever. I was lucky in setting (raised with pet sheep, cows, horses, chooks, cats, dogs etc), and also have my fair share of trauma from my parents' emotional abuse and familial dysfunctional patterns (inherited trauma from ancestries like this of stoic, Protestant, repressed farm workers). What I am appreciative of thanks to my upbringing is my connection to nature - but I always saw how it was all FAR too much work for two adults and children in the nuclear family setup - the gardening, harvesting, preserving, farming, housework, whilst both parents worked full time and raised us, to afford the mortgage and this life that they so wanted. As a teenager and whilst studying Political Sciences and critical theories at university (I was radicalised young hehe), I would talk to my friends ALL THE TIME about the dream of a commune, to live in this way connected to nature but to SHARE the efforts of maintaining a household and garden and land, etc. The majority of my university educated friends were on the same page back then - we were radical, socialist, green lefties and social activists who did not want the status quo and wanted to burn the system down. We also had large saviour-complexes that we have since unravelled (thanks, trauma). It is interesting to see so many of my previously revolutionary friends inevitably become more and more status quo - the current is so strong and it takes so much effort to resist that, it seems. Even within certain friend groups of humans I deeply love, and who love me dearly, I am the most radical, for sharing these ideas with you. Many of my girlfriends are burnt out by their late-twenties or early thirties from their world-saving, or have realised they prefer more conservative, normie beliefs re: dating/home-ownership/motherhood, etc. And like you, I have to practice accepting that and loving them despite our ideological differences. The neurodivergent folk among us, of my friends (I say this, whilst rejecting the capitalist notion of "neurotypical", but I use the term still because in this system, it identifies I think the more creative and queer brains) are more critical of the status quo and I think share your/my more radical belief systems. We also tend to be more queer, (I am unravelling my sexuality currently) and committed to unravelling/de-conditioning inherited belief systems. I am sharing all this to say - I AM SO WITH YOU NADIA, and also, it is hard sometimes to be constantly swimming upstream, against the mainstream current! And so many humans I love and adore and are in my community don't necessarily want to actually action the steps to live communally, they want their partners and houses and mortgages and well-paid careers. I guess we could joke that many of us are "champagne socialists" - all talk and ideas without really committing to LIVING our value system. Do you read Devon Price? They are a BRILLIANT thinker and social psychologist and I feel like you would love their essays and work (they are on Substack too). Anyway, I am actively putting in this energy of community and care into my friendships too, and dreaming of a commune of humans I love to live in in my 30s. My problem is that I travel and have lived in lots of places and so the humans I adore are scattered all over the country (I am from Aotearoa/NZ) and world. But I would love to found a place where I can host people from all over the world, perhaps an artist residency too, for creative system changers, and also leave to travel to other places to connect with people around art/resistance/systems change! In saying all of this, whilst reading your essay, I was reminded of the happiest times of my life, where I was living in community-orientated flats that we had very consciously created, and I was single. I love how you have valued your friendships even in marriage and relationships - I am inspired. I am often that single third wheel with my best friends who are married too! But I love them and also want to be a part of their children's lives! Anyway, I have written an essay in response to your essay - but thank you Nadia for being an example of someone who is a decade older and bravely pursuing a life formed by her own values - you are a signpost! By the way, I am also a Leo sun and resonate with so much of what you share around your love for people and friends. Much love from Aoeatroa, I will share your essay around my socialist friends hehe xxx

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